First Up - The Podcast, Monday 29 September

On today's First Up pod: Poland and Nato scrambled jets early on Sunday as Russia carried out strikes on Western Ukraine... Europe correspondent Anita Purcell Sjollund has the details. If you thought using artificial intelligence was just for young workers - think again. Our reporter Ke Xin Li finds out how people over 50 actually have an advantage with using AI. And toe wrestling champ Lisa - Twinkletoes - Shenton tells me all about the thrills and spills of this niche sport.