First Up - The Podcast, Friday 18 July

On today's First Up pod: we have latest from Trump's USA as MAGA bite back over the Epstein files; the latest boxing heavyweight decider is here - Oleksander Usyk and Daniel Dubois in the ring this weekend with Kiwi fighter Joseph Parker watching in the wings; and we hear from recently retired principal Maurie Abraham about how Modern Learning Environments worked well at his secondary school. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!