The Panel with Ali Jones and Allan Blackman, Part 2

In part two, Gertjan Verdickt is a senior finance lecturer at Auckland University, he reckons we should do away with Lotto and install something more akin to public bonds.

Then, the Panel talks to Rachel Grunwell, a personal trainer who's run about a hundred events - from Round the Bays to marathons all over the world. She ahs her tips to tackle the fast approaching Round the Bays races.