Gareth Hughes is the Director of the Wellbeing Economy Alliance Aotearoa is a former Green MP and is no longer a member of any political party.
Ron Mark is a former Cabinet Minister and New Zealand First MP and deputy leader. He was the mayor of Carterton from 2010 to 2014 and again from 2022 to 2025. He is not an active member of any political party.
Kathryn, Gareth and Ron discuss recent events in politics including New Zealand's response to conflict in the Middle East.
Photo: RNZ / Samuel Rillstone
