Gareth Hughes is the Director of the Wellbeing Economy Alliance Aotearoa is a former Green MP and is no longer a member of any political party.
Ben Thomas is a former National government press secretary, a columnist and a director of public affairs firm Capital.
Gareth and Ben discuss the week's politics, including Labour not guaranteeing to work with Te Pati Māori. Photo: RNZ / Tuwhenuaroa Natanahira
